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Mangala Samaraweera |
Convenor, SLFP (M)
Group and former SLFP strongman Mangala
Samaraweera predicts the defeat of the
Rajapakse administration on December 14 when
the third reading of the budget takes place.
In a wide-ranging interview with The
Sunday Leader, Samaraweera stated that
even if the government survives the vote by
some miracle, its days would still be
numbered. The Matara District MP said there
was a huge distortion in the composition of
the entire parliament that can be remedied
by holding a fresh election.
Samaraweera also
condemned the attacks on media institutions
that could not have been possible if not for
the concurrence of the state machinery and
claimed the war effort was being used by an
inefficient government to cover up its
political nudity. Excerpts:
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"When I emerged from parliament, at
the parliament drive lighting crackers
were Mervyn Silva and a notorious
underworld figure called Kudu Lal. I saw
them with my own eyes openly celebrating
the victory of the Rajapakse budget by
lighting hundreds of firecrackers. That
I think symbolised the very nature of
this government." |
By Dilrukshi Handunnetti
Q: At a recent media briefing, you
professed that the budget will be defeated
on December 14. What events could alter the
November 19 outcome so drastically?
A: During the second reading of the
budget, I was personally convinced that the
JVP was ready to oppose the budget. But many
of our colleagues were not. The Rajapakse
media Mafia carried out an effective
campaign to convince opposition legislators
that the JVP had pledged their support to
the budget.
As a result, despite being extremely
disgruntled with the course taken by this
government, many government legislators did
not wish to take a chance by voting against
to discover that the government remains
intact. They naturally wish to retain their
positions until the last minute. As
responsible politicians, we felt they should
wait for the outcome of the second reading
and depending on that, should come out
during the third reading.
When I said that I was personally
convinced about the JVP’s opposition to the
budget; that was because I know it to be a
responsible political party which is
extremely sensitive to public opinion. They
knew better than the SLFP politicians how
bad the situation is at ground level.
Many who helped form this government are
extremely disgusted with the direction taken
by the Rajapakse administration. If the JVP
endorsed that disastrous route taken, they
would not have been able to visit their
electorates.
The JVP stance will be the same on
December 14 as it is the same budget with no
changes. As things stand, I don’t think it
is difficult to muster the numbers.
Q: You mentioned that some SLFPers are
disgruntled with the direction taken by this
government. Even if they disagreed with
policy and practice, do you think they will
have the courage to oppose the budget?
A: The majority of the cabinet
members are disgruntled and disgusted with
the style of governance. It requires a lot
of courage to oppose an authoritarian rule
like this. It calls for giving up of perks
and privileges to do what is right by the
people. I am convinced that there are at
least eight members who are conscious of
that duty and willing to perform it.
Q: The opposition boasted about defeating
the government during the vote on the second
reading. What makes you confident of
government crossers-over?
A: From the people we have spoken to,
I think it is a fair assessment. For months
we have been in touch with them. Of course,
in between there are opportunists who used
the opportunity to further themselves,
hoping for more crumbs from the cake.
Even at the risk of not only losing their
positions but also undergoing intimidation,
they will now come forward. I have faith in
them and their determination to correct a
wrong.
Q: Does this mean the CWC and the SLMC
will join you to defeat the government?
A: I’d rather not comment on that
aspect. But I think the plight of the
plantation workers is of grave concern. The
economic situation has impacted on them much
more than any other section of society. We
have a small branch in the estate sector
which is doing very well. I know as a fact,
plantation workers are crying out for a new
administration.
I can’t see any other decision available
for the CWC and the SLMC than to defeat this
budget. Otherwise they would be branded
traitors who have compromised with a
horrendous government to maintain perks and
privileges.
Q: The opposition had different deadlines
to defeat the government. Is this December
14 deadline a mere ploy to keep the heat on?
A: If you recall, I have never made a
single public statement about defeating the
budget. I know the situation. I now feel the
numbers could be mustered and hence my
public statement.
As responsible politicians, we have a
duty to ensure that this administration is
sent home early. By some miracle if the
government survives December 14th, that does
not mean we should get demoralised and fold
up. We should keep hammering away at this
administration until it falls. This
government should be compelled to give in to
the democratic wishes of the people and
announce fresh elections.
This government has no moral right to be
in power anymore. The composition of
parliament is diametrically opposed to the
mandate received in 2004. Out of the members
who created this government, around 40 sit
in opposition while those elected to the
opposition are now in government. It is a
complete distortion of the 2004 mandate.
The only right thing to do, and that is
if Mahinda Rajapakse cares for democracy at
all, is to go back to the people and seek a
fresh mandate.
Q: Now that you raise the question of
distorting mandates by altering the
parliamentary composition, isn’t it a
recurring problem that paves the way for
horse trading and unholy alliances? Haven’t
you and Sripathi Sooriyaarachchi too
contributed to the distortion you speak of?
A: I do agree with you. We too have
contributed to the present distortion in a
way. But there is vital difference. Unlike
the other 40 odd defectors, we came from
positions of power and privilege to the
opposition. We are agitating for elections
and democracy. It is a different call.
In contrast, there are those mandated to
stay put in the opposition but have crossed
over in search of power, position and
privilege. They are the very ones who are
now defending the government because if it
falls, they lose their future.
The fundamental difference is that we
have taken a principled position while they
have taken a politically opportunistic
position. But as a result, both sections
have distorted the mandate. The only way to
correct that is to announce fresh elections.
Your question also raises an issue far
more important about the political crisis in
this country.
I feel the present constitution and the
electoral system open us to these
distortions. The PR system creates weak
administrations. Even if a resounding
mandate is received, that is not reflected
in parliament. And once a government is
formed, most governments have to do all
sorts of wheeler dealing to remain in power.
The role of an individual MP is far too
important to be ignored which provides
members the opportunity to make or break
governments. More often than not, this power
is used for their personal benefit.
As a result, the numbers in cabinets have
increased. In 1994, we pledged a cabinet of
24 ministers. We honoured this promise for
three years. Gradually as governments become
weaker and every attempt is made to keep
them afloat, numbers are increased.
Now we have come to this fantastic
situation of having the world’s largest
cabinet!
We have proposed remedies in our policy
document, Dare To Dream. As a matter
of national urgency, we have to change the
electoral system. Next, ensure that a member
once elected cannot cross over.
The better option would be to revert to
the old by election system when people are
given a fresh chance to validate such
decision at a by election. That’s the only
way to stem the situation and to create
small manageable cabinets that do not guzzle
public funds.
Q: At a recent meeting between the
President and the Opposition Leader, it is
claimed that the former informed the latter
that if the government is defeated on
December 14, the opposition could form a
government without going for a poll. How
acceptable is this position?
A: If a budget vote is defeated, the
constitution offers many options. First, the
President need not do anything at all. He
could present another budget within a
specified period of time. If defeated a
second time only it compels a president to
dissolve parliament.
The second option is to call upon whoever
who holds a majority in parliament to form a
government. The third is dissolution of
parliament.
Though he has the constitutional right to
consider all these options, for the reasons
we just discussed a minute ago, it is only
right for him to dissolve the house. The
people should be given the right to elect a
new parliament.
The policies of the government too have
changed from one to the other extreme since
2004. Rajapakse has changed his own policies
upon which he was elected president.
Therefore the people of this country should
be given the right to decide. If they still
decide that Mahinda Rajapakse should
continue, by all means it should be so.
Q: Following Wijedasa Rajapakshe’s
defection, the general perception was that
others were to follow him. Was this a fact?
A: There were many forces of darkness
at work. I don’t think any other government
in the recent history of Sri Lanka went to
such extremes to ensure a budget vote
victory in this manner. It was more like
warfare where the services of the Rajapakse
underworld and goon squads were unleashed.
MPs were threatened and tempted with
large sums of money, ministers were misled
with more ministries and more powers,
certain Buddhist priests were offered
diplomatic posts overseas, Tamil MPs were
subjected to intimidation and a MP’s family
member abducted, and UNP MPs were harassed
with cooked up charges.
The entire goon squad is at work. It was
very evident immediately after the vote was
taken.
When I emerged from parliament, at the
parliament drive lighting crackers were
Mervyn Silva and a notorious underworld
figure called Kudu Lal. I saw them with my
own eyes, openly celebrating the victory of
the Rajapakse budget by lighting hundreds of
crackers.
That I think symbolised the very nature
of this government!
Q: Arjuna Ranatunga announced early his
decision to oppose the budget but finally
voted in favour. Wijedasa Rajapakse and
Nandana Gunathileka abstained. Doesn’t it
demonstrate a failure on the part of the
opposition to convince them to fall in line
with you?
A: You may call it a failure. There
were doubts about the JVP voting pattern.
Many of the members did not want to take a
chance and identify themselves with the
political parties opposing it. They do not
want to expose themselves to the kind of
harassment we were being exposed to. Not
yet.
Q: If the government survives the third
reading vote, what will be on your political
agenda next?
A: Even if it survives, it will be by
a small margin. The political instability
will still remain. Actually, during the
second reading, this government came out
resembling a lame duck. It is unstable.
To survive, it will have to offer more
perks just to keep the members together. But
such holding on is not possible for long.
That is the nature of things.
As the economy suffers further, the
conflict worsens, the island becomes a
pariah nation before the international
community, and there is little or no
continuity for Mahinda Rajapakse’s
administration. He will find it extremely
difficult to hold all the forces together.
The world is hostile to him as much as the
electorate.
My feeling is, even if the government
survives the final reading, circumstances
will compel it to hold an election.
Q: The average SLFP and UNP supporter
will vote for the party rather than
individuals. If a poll is announced, will
the average SLFP voter support your
candidature?
A: I think so. Not 100%, but the SLFP
old guard and the rank and file would. They
are honourable people, they would trust me.
I am referring to those who helped create
this party and their descendants. They do
know that the Rajapakse administration has
taken the party away from the vision and
ideals of the SLFP.
In a way, the National Council formed by
us is more representative of SLFP ideals
than the Rajapakse brand. In fact Opposition
Leader, Ranil Wickremesinghe has had to
raise his voice to defend the rights of
Samurdhi recipients. Mahinda Rajapakse got
elected having pledged to increase the
Samurdhi allowance but he has completely
slashed the welfare benefits and now claims
that this government was not elected to
provide welfare to the people.
As opposed to that, the National Council
has come out with policies with a strong
social democratic basis. We hope to attract
not just the SLFP but also the floating
voter.
Q: One of the SLFP-M’s biggest
allegations against the government was the
alleged electoral pact with the LTTE. If the
allegation is correct, why is there a
general perception that the LTTE is being
militarily crushed by the same
administration? Isn’t there a disparity?
A: This government is insidious
simply because it uses the blood, sweat and
tears of our armed forces to cover up their
corruption, inefficiency and economic
mismanagement. The war they are waging, I
say with responsibility, is a bogus war. The
state uses the war as a manthram to cover
their political nudity.
We have witnessed war being waged with
more success before. When President
Kumaratunga took over Jaffna, Pirapaharan
was having his main office at the Jaffna
Kachcheri. The government writ was
re-established in the peninsula.
Then, seven ships of ammunition were
destroyed. Newton, the second in command of
Pottu Amman was killed.
When we are dealing with a crisis of this
nature, war cannot be the solution. In the
final count, if we are to find a durable
solution, we have to find a political
solution that addresses the grievances of
the Tamil people. We cannot get away with
rhetoric. By waging a war without addressing
those affected, we are only encouraging the
birth of hundreds of Pirapaharans. This is
why, a solution to the conflict is the
first, second and third priority of the
National Council’s agenda.
A new government should sit with the LTTE.
There is no time for fooling around. Forget
all party conferences. Sri Lanka no longer
needs such confabs. Since the Thimpu talks
in 1987, we have been looking at the problem
from top to bottom and left to right. Now
what we require is the political will do
what is right.
Q: You complained to the Permanent
Commission Investigating into Allegations of
Bribery and Corruption against the
procurement of four MiG 27s. What progress
has been made with regard to this inquiry?
A: We complained some six months ago.
The follow up action is slow. Sripathi
Sooriyaarachchi’s statement was recorded
about two months ago. As the other
complainant, I am still waiting to record my
statement.
This is the malady of this institution.
There are too many cases. When it comes to
taking concrete action specially when VVIPs
are involved, our system fails us.
Q: Is there a possibility of you being
absorbed into the UNP?
A: No. What is important is not to be
absorbed into the UNP or any other party.
This country is crying out for a new order
away from the parochial politics which has
directed this country since independence. At
National Council meetings, I am thrilled to
see the amity between the two main party
supporters. This was possible all along but
we never tried to unite these forces for the
greater good, as we were hell bent on
keeping them separated.
I think what is now required is an
inclusive political culture where both main
parties can work together. I believe we have
laid the foundation for that, even though
today it may be a mere faction of the SLFP.
I sincerely believe that when we form a
government, the SLFP voter and the UNP voter
would rally round us to usher in a new
political order.
My fervent hope is that these two parties
would work together at least for one
generation, for 10-15 years to drag this
country out of these abysmal depths to put
country before party and provide the long
suffering people what they deserve.
Q: As one time media minister, how do you
assess the current political culture
impacting on the media?
A: I was shocked by the most recent
incident, the burning of The Sunday
Leader press. The attack has all the
hallmarks of one carried out during the Nazi
era in Germany where government sponsored
goons broke into newspaper offices, attacked
them and fled with full state protection.
Today it is obvious that the attack on
the Leader was carried out with the
complete concurrence of the government. If
the defence authorities did not have a clue,
the goons would not have so easily accessed
and escaped from a building located within
the high security zone in Ratmalana.
It demonstrates the government’s
inability to tolerate an iota of criticism.
It is a government with so much to hide and
so much at stake. They will go to any
lengths to suppress the truth being told.
As you said, I was the media minister
twice. I had a very robust relationship with
the media. I had lots of arguments and
disagreements but it was always within the
democratic framework. If I disagreed with
media institutions, I criticised them
openly. If I felt aggrieved or slandered, I
resorted to the law of the country like any
other citizen. I never used thugs and goon
squads to silence detractors.
That is how it should be. I think that
the media should be able to constructively
criticise and comment openly and a
government should be tolerant. When
maligned, there is the legal framework at
our disposal.
It is unacceptable that media
institutions need to fear for their physical
safety. The shadow of Gotabaya Rajapakse
appears to have fallen on the media
institutions and it is time to say enough is
enough.
Q: Moves are afoot to impose a censorship
regime and reintroduce criminal defamation.
Do you consider criminal defamation a
necessary tool and consider civil remedies
insufficient?
A: Prime Minister Ranil
Wickremesinghe abolished criminal
defamation. I abolished an absurd law that
provided parliament with powers to haul
editors and journalists to the parliament
well to be punished by lawmakers.
I think there is no need for criminal
defamation. On the other hand, I do feel
certain media standards and ethics should be
introduced as in the US and UK. They have
stipulated guidelines based on international
standards. That’s the correct approach. I am
sure such an exercise would never be opposed
by the true journalists in this country who
yearn for a better media culture.
"Winning the war will not solve
the problem"
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Kumar Rupesinghe |
Chairman,
Foundation for Co-Existence, Kumar Rupesinghe said
Sri Lanka would lose international support if it
continues to be what it is now. Speaking to The
Sunday Leader he said the country could go back
to the negotiating table despite the recent increase
in military engagement. He added neither the
government nor the LTTE were genuine in their
efforts and both parties had their own agendas. "In
this country also, war is not a question of gaining
territory. It is about winning the hearts and minds
of the people. The way we have conducted the war has
certainly not won the hearts of the people in the
north and east. Even if the government takes over
Killinochchi and Mullaithivu there will be another
generation who will take up arms. To win the hearts
and minds of the people the government has to
provide a political solution," he said.
By Arthur Wamanan. |
Q: What are the prospects for
peace in Sri Lanka considering the recent escalation
in military engagements?
A: There is no prospect for
peace at the moment. The government believes that it
can win the war through military means and the LTTE
will of course react to that. As long as the
government is committed to a military solution, I
don’t see any prospects for peace in the immediate
future.
Q: The LTTE had said it would not
avenge Tamilselvan’s killing. Do you think the LTTE
would return to the negotiating table after this
incident or will they use it as an excuse to wage
war?
A: Politicians on both sides
have been assassinated during the last 25 years.
That did not prevent either side from going
to the negotiating table. I condemn all the
political killings that have taken place.
Q: The government continues to
claim that the doors are always open for talks.But
the government forces have also carried out attacks
which eventually resulted in the killing of the LTTE
political wing head. Do you think the government is
genuine towards a negotiated settlement to the
ethnic issue?
A: When they say the doors
are open for peace, I do not think that the
government means to have discussions with the LTTE.
I think what they mean is to destroy or beat the
LTTE and then have discussions. Neither the
government nor the LTTE have ever been genuine. Both
sides have not learnt any lessons from past
negotiations. Both sides have hidden agendas. The
agenda is that both sides have continued to re-arm.
They are engaged in what I call politics of
duplicity.
Q: Who will the government hold
discussions with if they mean to destroy the LTTE?
A: The government will hold
discussions with another representative of the Tamil
people. But all these are irrelevant. The government
should provide a political package which can satisfy
the aspirations of the Tamil people.
Q: You were reported to have said
that the LTTE has betrayed the Tamil people by not
working towards a political solution. Does that mean
they are not sincere and should be dealt with
militarily?
A: I’m glad you asked that
question. What I said was the LTTE, like many other
armed groups came about as a result of the failure
of moderate Tamil politicians to resolve the
national question. And therefore an entire younger
generation questioned whether the problem could be
solved in a peaceful and non-violent way. Therefore
an armed movement was formed to achieve freedom for
their people. That is how the LTTE also came about.
My position is that if you look at the methods used
by the LTTE they have become counter productive.
Mahatma Gandhi said the struggle for peace depends
very much on the methods that you use. But if you
engage in activities like child recruitment and also
deny the rights of other minorities like the Muslims
or if you deny the rights of others to participate
in the political environment, people begin to ask
whether this is the kind of freedom they want. The
LTTE also has responded violently to state sponsored
terrorism for the last 25 years. They have to
reflect on some of the methods that they use.
Q: The US Ambassador Robert Blake
has repeatedly said the war is not winnable which
view the international community including India
have expressed. The Defence Secretary, Gotabaya
Rajapakse has said it will have to be a military
solution. Which view do you subscribe to and why?
A: Naturally I subscribe to
the view of Ambassador Blake. Wars are not winnable
in the 21st
century. One good example is the US war on Iraq.
President Bush wanted a quick war. The most powerful
army is present in Iraq. But they have not been able
to win that war. On the contrary a million people
have died because of the war. This has become a
nightmare. In Sri Lanka too war is not a question of
gaining territory. It is about winning the hearts
and minds of the people. If you look at the way the
war was conducted we have certainly not won the
hearts of the people in the north and east. If the
government takes over Killinochchi and Mullaithivu
there will be another generation who will take up
arms.
Q. Are you taking any action to
get the international community to urge the
government to concentrate on a political solution?
A. There is no point urging
the international community. The international
community is getting fed up. They are no longer
enthusiastic about Sri Lanka. I think the
international community will totally abandon the
country if we go on like this.
Q: What are you doing as a peace
activist?
A: We had a People’s Congress
on November 10, where 7,000 delegates who are
informed citizens of the country. The other aspect
was that more than 50% of them were women. People of
other ethnic groups also participated. We presented
a People’s Declaration highlighting the profound
crisis in Sri Lanka, and that the country has
deteriorated economically, socially and culturally.
We made a point that Sri Lanka is a spiritual desert
and that war is only one aspect of this crisis. The
Presidential system is also a cause for the problem.
The Presidential system was formed to resolve
problems that could not be solved in parliament but
it has not been the case. Most presidents have been
the President of his party and his ethnic group.
People don’t have faith in the political system. The
leaders have failed to resolve the Tamil national
question. And these people have been waiting for 56
years. The war will cost around Rs. 2000 billion
next year. How are they getting the money? By
printing and borrowing money at high interest rates?
The war is generating inflation. Our inflation rate
is 22% — the highest in Asia. The war has increased
the cost of living. It is non-productive. Now people
are realising the connection between the war and the
stomach. Free education has been eroded by education
policies. Transport has degenerated. People do not
have access to many hospitals. The money spent on
the war should be spent to develop these.
Q: The Anti War Front was
launched with much fanfare but it appears to have
lost the initial zeal. Are government members
pulling you back?
A: The congress decided to
form a people’s movement. We did a lot of work at
the grassroots. We have 15,000 members and more are
joining. We will talk to the leaders of the relevant
parties. We will take legal action if necessary, and
even engage in satyagraha. But clearly we are
not a political party. We are a people’s movement.
Q: In your view, do the people
also want a military settlement to the ethnic issue?
A: The government through the media has shown
that it has made some military gain. A section of
the people are convinced that the government can win
the war. But that view is now challenged by many due
to the cost of living, corruption and other reasons.
The people are beginning to question the ideology of
war in the country.